Waveforms working but can’t change the rate

Hey everyone. I’m experimenting with the wave forms on my MC6 Pro. Right now just messing with controlling the mix knob on a Strymon Cloudburst.

The thing is the waveforms WORK but i can’t adjust the rate. I’ve tried with the cycles per minute option and the MIDI clock option. The message saves properly to the preset but there’s no change in speed. Its just stuck at the same speed (which sounds like about one cycle per second).

I did make sure i was disconnected from the editor when trying. I even disconnected and then restarted the device and still no change.

Thanks in advance for the help! :slightly_smiling_face:

Can you share a screenshot of your preset settings? Changing the cycles per minute will change the rate - just tested this. If using the MIDI clock option, MIDI clock needs to be running, if not it will not start.







Sorry for the super long image post lol. I wanted to share the whole preset in case i messed something up in it. As you can see the rate is currently at 60 per minute with a speed multiplier of 4x, but i’ve tried all sorts of combinations all they way up to 127 per minute and haven’t noticed a difference in rate.

Do you think it could be due to the message placement? I noticed the Walrus D1 is very sensitive to where the its messages are in a preset (it likes them later after most of the other messages). This just occurred to me and I have not tried moving the message yet. Thanks again for the help!

I realize there is a firmware update needed, I just didn’t have time to do it today. I did do the one just before that however, just a few days ago.

Any thoughts? I did try moving the message around with no change. Holding off on the firmware update for now.

Sorry for the delayed response.

I don’t see any issues with the preset settings. The preset is toggling properly between position 1 & 2 right?
I realised I should have asked for this instead - can you share your “all-banks” backup file? I’ll load the file into my controller and test with your settings.

No worries, James, I’m sure your a busy guy :slightly_smiling_face:

The preset is toggling as it should be.

Here is the full controller backup. I took waveforms off the dream setting since i wasn’t getting the rate to change but i left the waveform engines as they were and added a copy of the dream setting with the waveform messages in bank 2 preset B. Tried again today the rate is still stuck.

Actually its telling me the all banks backup is too big to share on here - is there another way to get it on that i’m missing? In the mean time i’ll share bank 1 (preset without waveform), bank 2 (preset WITH waveform) and the overall controller settings.

Bank 1 no waveform.json (89.8 KB)

Bank 2 with waveform.json (89.0 KB)

Controller_settings_all (2).json (17.0 KB)

Just tested - didn’t see any issues though. The Waveform worked as it should with the different cycles per minute settings.

If you go to the MIDI Monitor tab, and then Activity Data, do you see the message appear when you trigger the preset?

If you click into the message, you can see the parameters that is executing:

I do see the message displayed in activity data just like on your screen. I also have the same info listed when clicking on that message (though with different rates selected).

Is there a reason it shows engine 4 when clicking there? I double checked, the message in the preset specifies engine 1. Engine 4 is currently turned off in controller settings. 1 is a triangle, 2 is a sine, both with ranges from 55 to 123.

Any chance this is something to do with the strymon pedal? Or the fact that i’m using an omniport to send midi to it? I don’t see how, but i feel like we’ve ruled out everything else. I’ll try sending a waveform to my D1 tonight and report back. That pedal is tempermental already though so the results may not be reliable :rofl:

I attempted this on the D1 as well (through normal midi out) with the same results, waveform worked but rate was fixed no matter what I did.

I can even see the CC values being sent in midi monitor (kind of fun to watch lol) and you can tell the rate doesn’t change.

I haven’t tried anything different lately but i may have time to mess around with it this saturday.

I was holding off on the firmware update due to the reports of bugs i saw on here, but i assume its now corrected and i can update? Do you think that could solve the issue?

Let me know how the new firmware works for you. I was unable to replicate this issue - the waveform speed changes fine for me. Just to confirm, did you check the MIDI monitor to see if the speed at which the MIDI messages are sent out are different, or are you doing hearing the changes from your device?

I’ve done both. At first just listening to the waveforms speed, then when you mentioned checking the midi monitor i did so and also saw that it logs the stream of CC messages for the wave form so i checked there as well.

I had the speed high enough to where i’m sure i would have heard the difference in how fast its controlling the cloudburst mix knob, to no avail. I’ll see how the firmware does tomorrow. Its gotta either be that or i’m just doing something wrong lol. Thanks again for the help :slightly_smiling_face:

Well i performed the latest firmware update aaaaaand nothing has changed. Waveform rate is still stuck.

Some things to note: i tried the sequencers to see if the speed can be changed on them. They work both with CPM and the midi clock. However, while the engine is running, changing the midi bpm does not change anything. Only when on a preset that has the sequencer stopped you can change the bpm, come back to the preset with the sequencer running and the speed has changed to match. Not sure if this is intended operation or not.

I’m getting pretty bummed out. the waveforms seem like a really useful tool but without being able to change the rate i really won’t be able to make use of them.