Toogle Mode: Toogle name displayed instead of short name

Hi, my first question here.
i setup a preset as a toogle preset (toogle mode on), to alternate between two presets on a device. this does work.
the first time i press the switch, the correct preset is activated on the device, but the preset name on the controller shows the toogle name, not the short name, as expectet.
i want to show the short name, when engaging the preset the first time and show the toogle name, when i hit the switch the second time.
what i am doing wrong?

Hi. The names shown typically show what will happen if you press the switch. If instead, you want it to show what is currently engaged, just swap the short name and toggle name around. Hope that helps!

Thanks for the tip, but it doesn’t really help me.
I don’t understand the logic behind it, or whether the MC6 MK2’s behavior is correct.
As you said, the short name should describe the function that is triggered when I press the switch for the first time. The correct function is triggered, but the name immediately switches to the toggle name.
If I press the switch a second time, the short name appears and the second function is triggered.
So, exactly the opposite of what I want.

Hi, as Brandon tried to explain. The short name is displayed if the preset is in position 1. The toggle name is displayed if the preset is in position 2.
Position 1 is the default state of a preset when entering a bank.
Any message that is programmed with ‘pos1’ will be sent if you press the switch for the first time. Then the preset toggles to position 2 and the toggle name will be displayed.
There is no ‘neutral’ state of the preset!
That’s why you have to swap short and toggle name if you want them to correspond with the message that has ben sent last.

For example:
You want to toggle a delay on/off.
CC 127 turns it on.
CC 0 turns it off

Programm your preset like this:

Toggle mode active

Msg1:
Action ‘press’
Type ‘CC 127’
Position ‘pos1’
Short name 'Delay Off

Msg2
Action ‘press’
Type ‘CC 0’
Position ‘pos2’
Toggle name 'Delay On

Hope that helps

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I can relate to this misunderstanding, in fact I brought up something similar here:

Preset/Toggle Mode Labels

Toggle mode as it is works great for turning a single effect on or off, but like you I’d love to have a third name option that could represent a state prior to position one.

There already is a third state called ‘shift’ you could use for that purpose.
But it could be complicated to implement this, because you’ll probably have to find a way to reset your presets consistently. Features like ‘toggle groups’ wouldn’t work well neither.