Here is the scenario - I want to use the toggle functionality to toggle effects on and off on my Eventide H90 similar to a pedalboard. The display and the behavior right now is very counter intuitive. Help please!
When I select preset 1 by pressing button A, I want it to load position 1 and also display text from position 1. When I then go to preset 2 by pressing button B, I want it to load preset 2, position 1 and display text from preset 2, position 1. If I again press button B, I want it to toggle to preset 2, position 2 and display text from position 2. When I go back to select preset 1 by pressing button A, I want it to load position 1 and also display text from position 1 again.
Right now, when I select between the two buttons, the preset position advances.
Can you please advise how to make this happen? Thanks.
while it is possible to set the presets up the way youâve described it isnât advisable to do so.
It would be quite complex to set up simple toggles and some features like âtoggle groupsâ would be almost useless.
My advice would be to accept the design as it is and use the functions of the controller as they are intended.
Generally speaking, there is no neutral state of a preset. When you enter a bank aÄșl of the presets are in position 1. If you toggle a preset it will change the position to position 2.
If a preset is engaged while it is in position1 any message set to âpos1â or âpos bothâ will be send.
Usually this would be a message to turn on some device even though the lable for position 1 shows that the device is off.
Thank you for taking the time to generate a response! Given your approach, how would you use the controller like a pedalboard? Meaning, Iâm using the Eventide H90 for all of my effects and I want to call up a reverb on one switch, a chorus on the other, and a delay on the other. I want to use them independently as if they were pedals on a pedalboard. Thanks so much for helping me think this through.
I have found a fault in the way that I am thinking about this! I need to correct my thinking and then re-approach the problem. Thanks again for the response.
As mentioned, all presets are initially in position 1 (also called âdis-engaged). Naturally youâd use position 1 to be the âoffâ state of your effects and name the preset accordingly. (Chorus Off, Phaser Off etc.)
Programm your presets to recall the H9 preset youâd like (and turn on the effect, if needed) in position1.
When you engage the preset it will toggle to pos2 and show the name for pos2 after the messages have been send.
Naturally the name for pos2 would be something like âeffect onâ.
Programm the message to turn the effect off to pos2.
Since the presets are always exclusive you want to disengage all other presets if you engage a new preset. If you want this to be the case for all presets within a bank, simply enable âclear preset togglesâ in bank settings.
If you want only some presets to disengage each other use a âtoggle reset groupâ. Click on âtoggle groupâ and scroll down in the dropdown to find these.
Yes, thanks again for the response. I fully understand and agree with you. Part of the issue with my thinking is the difference between what is loaded and what is displayed. I have to swap the two if I want the controller to display what is currently loaded. Learning is happening!
I just wish instead of calling them toggle 1 and 2 positions they label them âOnâ and âoffâ like every other midi controller. On/Off and Shift. Every time Iâm working through a preset I have to stop and think which position will really be the âonâ position or engaged if you will.
For whatever itâs worth, you can create a preset on your effects pedal, I usually use PC# 0 as a blank/bypassed (dry) preset for each of my pedals. I sett all knobs to noon an mix to zero for wet effectsâŠ.so it has no effect. This may be irrelevant for your intentions butâŠ.it might not be.
Regarding counterintuition: Nothing is on until it is on. Once itâs on then you can rename your toggle names, so that you see what youâre looking for (swap the names). The problem is the 1st time you enter the bank before you click the preset button the naming convention will not applyâŠ..because it isnât âonâ yet.
I donât mean toggling a single effect on and off. I mean the mc preset itself on and off. Itâs still the switches on position or off position if you will.
You are correct and I agree. I guess I just donât like that behavior. In a perfect world, when moving from one preset to the next, the preset that Iâm about to select would be displayed before I press the button. Then after I press the button to select that preset, it would still display the name of the preset currently in use. After I press it again, position 2 would load and the corresponding name would be displayed. I might suggest this for a future upgrade, what do you guys think?
I know where you guys are coming from, Iâve had similar issues at first. But again I quickly realized that the toggle can be used in many ways. For example, Iâve set up some presets for a boss rc 500 looper and use the toggles to keep the presets in sync with the looper. A change like that would f* up a lot of my presets. Itâs part of the core design. Changing that would probably cause a lot of complaints because of this.