the message that I have to add to each preset, is that how it should be programmed?
edit:
I tried, it doesn’t work, I thought so for a while but I was wrong.
On the other hand, this has the effect of turning on the boost when each preset is engaged.
question:
Does the place (in the preset) where you place the message have an influence on its function? Or can we put the messages in any order?
Hi, the order does matter. Messages are executed in the order they are programmed.
A ‘set toggle’ message doesn’t have any effect on your OD 200 all it does is change the toggle states of the MC without sending any messages to the OD.
Is the “unshift” message OK ?
is it placed on the right place (on the end)?
I’d place it as the very first message. That way all presets are unshifted if you change the preset. You’ll have to check the boxes for the other presets though.
For example:
Your OD presets are B, C and D.
Program a ‘unshift’ message to preset B and check the boxes for C and D.
Program another ‘unshift’ to preset C and check the boxes for B and D
Do the same thing for preset D.
I’m going to set up a bank for you that has the toggle thing done. Then we can concentrate on the OD side of things. Boss pedals are known to be messy when it comes to midi. Would you mind to post the midi and switch assigns of your OD? I own an EQ 200 and know how things work in general but the EQ doesn’t have a boost or something similar. I’ve trouble to wrap my head around why the boost is initially active when you recall a preset via PC. In addition to that the boost shouldn’t turn off with the second press at all. Something is odd with the OD’s midi implementation.
Like this?
C,D,E for B
D,E for C (or should we also include the one before? So B?)
E for D (or should we include those before? so B,C?)
Always include all the other presets
After testing, I see that it still doesn’t work.
as soon as I turn on the boost, and switch to another preset, the background of the preset I just used AND that of the new selected preset are lit again.
This means that if I need 2,3 or 4 presets in a row, with boost on, all the backgrounds will be on.
As long as the boost is inactive everything is fine, only the background of the selected perk is lit.
We’re getting close to the goal…thanks a thousand times…it’s starting to work the way I want it to.
The only thing I don’t understand is that now that I have selected ALL the boxes (except the one corresponding to the preset of course) in the message type “set toggle” and toggle position = “unshift”, the boost is on when I go from one preset to another.
But this is still a minor problem.
There, comfort is total, thanks to the illuminated background, always one at a time, you know which preset is activated.
If no yellow background is activated it means that I am in “clean” therefore OD-200 OFF.
EDIT:Well, all that remains is to resolve the problem of the boost “on” when changing presets…I tried to enter the value 0 instead of 127 but now, the boost no longer turns on .
What do you mean by “post the midi and switch assigns of your OD?”
Which settings are you talking about? those of the editor concerning the OD-200 or other settings specific to the OD-200?
Well, I search and search, if I reverse the values (from 0 to 127) or if I choose other positions other than “2” (shift, 1 or both) it doesn’t work.
But I had an idea. I followed @WockBuz’s advice in this thread:
by setting the OD-200 so that the light is visible like here:
I followed his advice. This is how the OD-200 is configured.
But I just did a test with this boost function in factory setting, that is to say “memory (M-1)” instead of BST (boost).
So the factory setting gives me something totally strange. without touching the editor parameters, the preset selection behavior is completely different.
Preset B = Boost on without ever being able to turn it off.
Presets C, D, E boost off without ever being able to turn it on.
super strange.
by switching back to BST in the OD-200 we find all the boost presets on and can turn them off, as in the video above
Hi, I’ve build a bank to show you how the toggles on the MC are working. Found a minor bug concerning the shift state but i’ve found a workaround.
Give this a try, and tell me how this goes for you
‘Clear Preset Toggles’ has to be deactivated in Bank Settings!!!
Ignore the OD for now, just test if the toggles on the MC are working for you.
We’ll tackle the OD as the next step
Morningstar_MC6PRO_Bank_Backup_Test_20240121_201722.json (89.0 KB)
My firmware version is
2024-01-11_MC6_PRO_Firmware_v_3_12_3.hex
It seems to work .
I’ve copied preset A (clean) in your bank and everything seems to working.
you didn’t touch the “E” preset, did you ?
Just to be sure, because there is no effect on this one. You only did the tests on presets B,C,D, right??
That’s right. You will have to program E yourself just copy D and check the boxes.
Don’t forget to change A-D. You’ll have to add the new preset there too.
You’ll also have to fill in the correct CC# in preset A
Just to clarify I did the bank from scratch. You’ll have to copy all of the presets
No problem. There, in France it is late. I’ll go to bed and sort this out tomorrow. In any case, thank you. I still have a question, which I will ask you tomorrow if you agree.
OK, have a good night then
Hello; I’ m at home and i have programmed the the preset E as you programmes the others (B,C,D).
I have noticed one unique thing that is really confusing.
Before, with my old bank , the clean preset, preset A was always identical., that means if i was in distortion mode (B,C,D,E) and I pressed A, the distortion turned ever off. That was the goal.
When distortion is ON, the background of A was ever white.As soon i hit A for clean, the od-200 was OFF and the background was blue.
My old bank for clean preset demo
Besides, I copied this preset into your bank that you programmed for me, but the result is slightly different. It happens that by pressing A the distortion lights up.
It also happens, but only when I’m playing with the clean that the boost is on as soon as I switch to distortion (B,C,D,E) but the OD-200 remains off.
In the video it’s clearer.
I think that because of presets B,C,D,E with Sift, preset A no longer behaves in the same way.
Your bank but with a litte problem on clean.
I know I’m asking a lot…but since I still don’t understand much about midi and particularly shift state, I’m still asking you the question…
I thinks that two things are going wrong at once.
Solution: add a message to turn off the boost on press to preset A
here is the prest as it was before
the problem is now that sometimes when i’m in a distortion prest with boost active and switch to preset A -clean, nothing happens.Clean doesn’t work
preset_A_data.json (3.1 KB)
should I copy the same state shift parameters in preset A to turn off the OD 200 instead of its boost like in the other presets?
I don’t have my MC 6 at home. I cant load the file.
Could you post a screenshot of preset A?
I’ve noticed that your OD shows in it’s display what message it is executing.
Preset A does not toggle the MC correctly, it did when I tested it. And the OD only turns off with the second press of preset A.
Please check the midi monitor to find out what messages preset A is sending when you engage it multiple times.
