Hello! is there a way to bypass a node when a pedal is bypassed? things sound muddy if I bypass a pedal that is in parallel for example the mercury x or onward in this case. I can make a new patch and remove the pedal I want all together but is it possible to bypass one pedal while playing and not get doubled output
In the v1.2.0 beta firmware, you can send CC messages to bypass or cut the output of a node. Is that what you are looking for?
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@james yes precisely I will update the unit and get to it right away. Also, why is the simple mode “louder” than the advanced mode?
Hey James, I’ve updated the unit, what are the next steps?
Edit:- I’ve managed to turn the desired loops on/off. Though it still sounds like the guitars are out of phase in parallel. In simplemode, everything sounds powerful and clear enough
The way you’re routing in the screenshot provided, you’re experiencing “averaging” rather than summing. Simple mode does not average any of your signals, so there’s no drop in volume. The reason the final output in advance mode has two nodes per channel (2 on left and 2 on right outputs) is because these two nodes “sum” your signal like a mixer.
Averaging is where signals are combined with a reduction in level based on the number of signals. Which means all those parallel signals are getting reduced in volume. The way you’re routing multiple signals to a single node results in averaging the signals.
Thank you, I didn’t know that at all.
So if I put the nodes (one into left and one into right) would I get the same result as summing?
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One signal per node at the final output will result in summing. Final output provides two nodes.
Multiple signals per node results in averaging.
When I’m routing in advanced mode, I like to limit my parallel chains to two so that I can utilize the two nodes per channel (meaning channel left, channel right) at the final output.
Some of my patches do have more than two parallel routings that results in averaging, but I try to make sure at least one path all the way to the end has no averaging so that I maintain volume in my choices of effects on that particular chain. It works well when I don’t mind a drop in volume from some of my more granular effects in those less direct routing paths.
Ah makes sense, thanks a lot for the help. Could you please post a screenshot of your parallel chain presets so I can get a proper idea, would be really helpful.
thanks
Here’s a proper example.
Signal is split after Hedra. One of the three parallel chains is Hedra > Polymoon > Output.
The others are Hedra > Ribbons and Thermae in parallel > averaged back together in Mood mkII > Output. I get a moderate volume drop here where Ribbons and Thermae meet at Mood, but that’s okay with me as Ribbons, Thermae, and Mood are all doing textural things.
The Polymoon and Mood chains are summed at the end because I’m only using one signal per node.
Edit: In a patch like this, I also tend to run Mood mkII with Dry Kill so that my cleanish signal isn’t mixed with the latency inherent in digital pedals. So you only hear whatever of my dry signal based on the mix settings in Hedra and Polymoon.
Thanks a ton for this! I will get back with an update soon!
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Hi Bernard, sorry for the late reply. I cant get any sound off my parallel channel here
What am I doing wrong here? The phasing issue is gone but theres no sound coming off my onward or mercuryx
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turns out it was an issue with my onward. Everything is working perfectly now!!
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Okay great!
I was going to ask if there was Dry Kill or MISO on for one of the Chase Bliss dip switches.
Glad it’s working out!
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it was some odd power supply issue. Can’t thank you enough:)
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You bet!! I love a good problem solving!