Need help with MC3 "on enter bank" operation

Hello,
here’s my problem:

In order to control the Elektron Digitakt with the MC3, I’ve created 8 banks on the mc3 to match the DT’s 8 banks. Each bank contains 16 patterns.
Bank 1 goes from 0 to 15
Bank 2 from 16 to 31 etc…

That way, with a PC scroll up (deprecated), I can move incrementally from pattern 1, to 2, to 3 etc…
The only thing that I need now, is a way to set the countdown (or count up in that case) to 0 everytime I call a new bank.
It seems like I can program a message on the Bank edit page, with “on enter bank” to achieve that task.
Something like On enter bank, utility, update 0 -->0 counter… But it’s not working, I’m missing something…
Thanks for your feedback, this is a nightmare! :wink:

Hi! Your problem is the use of “PC scroll up (deprecated)”. It’s no longer really supported. The scroll counters you’re trying to set with your on enter bank messages aren’t used by “PC scroll
Up (deprecated)”

Have a read of Sending incremental/decremental PC numbers or CC Values

Hey thanks… I’ve read the article but I don’t understand how it works. Do I need to program the first box in the controller setting from 0 to 1, then the second box from 1 to 2 etc??

Edit: Ok, I found what the problem was… I had to set the “on enter bank” to “reset”, not “update”, now it’s working.
I’d like to solve another issue: for the time being, I need to change manually banks on the DT, but on the mc3 as well, for the banks to match.
How can I send a bank message to the DT ? I’m not sure it’s possible with the digitakt…

Here’s where I am now and my latest issue.
pc scroll to bank up the patterns:

I added “on enter bank” to bring the DT to the desired pattern.
Now:
When I enter the bank, I’m there on pattern #80. But if I press the scroll footswitch, I get pattern #80 as well. No surprise, this is where my pc scroll begins. But I need pattern 81 on the first press… I don’t know what I should do set the value back to 0 and get 1 on the first press…

Use a “PC number scroll” message instead of “PC scroll up/down (deprecated)”

Deprecated meaning “not really used / supported / favoured any more”

Hey thanks! I was wondering what “deprecated” meant (I’m French).

I found a way around it; I’m using a footswitch to scroll through a number of pc messages, like you would to go through presets in a bank. I’ve used “on enter bank” to make sure the scroll count is back to the beginning when I go to a new bank.
I just have to press once before I start playing anything, so that my next press will trigger pattern #2.
I just have to remember this.
I’ll try the “pc number scroll” you’ve suggested, but I have a feeling it won’t solve the issue of having the new scroll back to 0, and first press will be #1 and not #2

If you use PC number scroll, you can send messages like “reset counter to start” without actually sending the value…

Okay, try this - this will set a scroll counter to ‘80’ when you enter the bank, then when you press the preset’s footswitch it will send PC 81 to the configured MIDI channel. Of course, you can change the value of ‘80’ for the on enter bank message if you use it in other banks.

Set your scroll counter:
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Create an On Enter bank message:

Create a preset in that same bank - in this example I’ve used preset I:

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Your other question was how to keep the banks in sync between the two devices.

If sending PC, CC or Note values to the DT from an outside MIDI source includes commands to do what you want, just add them as OnEnter bank messages.

The MC3 doesn’t have a MIDI in. The larger MC pedals with MIDI inputs can receive MIDI commands from external devices to make the MC change bank. So sending PC #0 in to an MC6 would change the MC6 to Bank 1.

Here’s another idea, to avoid using one bank on the MC per DT bank. You could do this all in one bank…

Setup a preset to use message scroll. This preset will reset the scroll counter to 0 when you long press, and then advance the scroll by 10 when you short press and release… so message 1 is the long press, and the other 15 messages are exactly the same as shown here…

You could also set one of the messages in that preset to a double tap, Utility > Manage Message Scroll > Set/change message scroll direction which would let you change the direction ie bank DOWN when you press.

You would probably also want to change your on enter bank message to set the scroll to 0 i.e. it’s starting position.

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Hey thanks a ton for your help. I’m all set up now, it works flawlessly! That was quite a journey. Till next time!

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