I believe I’ve read everything even tangentially related to this question and have experimented for hours. But I give up. When a preset is in toggle mode, is it possible to execute messages that act independently of toggle mode? If so, how?
I use bank one as a home base/hub and often need to return there to quickly switch to another specific bank. I really would like to avoid dedicating a switch for this purpose. I’ve tried using every available combination of “actions” for the messages I want toggled and for the one I don’t, but all activate the toggle.
I have a three-button aux. switch programmed into Omniport 1, but fixed switch custom only permits me to scroll through banks, not jump to a specific bank (or am I missing something there, too?).
My specific question is for “bank jumps” while in toggle mode, but my question applies to a other actions as well, such as bypass/engage actions for my strymon pedals. I currently have a switch dedicated to that function in each strymon bank. Yikes!
I hate it when I miss what is usually staring right at me. I know I’m not the only user who would like to perform this action, but because I could not find a post in this forum that addresses this specific problem, I also suspect that I’m probably over complicating the obvious.
So short press and release engages / disenages the C4 synth on alternate short presses. I set my toggles per preset rather than using the bank level “Clear Preset Toggles” set to ‘on’, because sometimes I don’t want a preset to disengage another preset when pressed, and sometimes I do want that.
Long press takes me back to bank one.
Double tap jumps to “a bank”. Caveat: use of double tap introduces a short delay, because the controller needs to know if the user is tapping once or twice before it does stuff.
Bank has some commands to deselect all exp messages and disengage all pedals (just in case!).
Thank you for this. Over the weekend I read your interactions with other lost souls around a similar topic. It was helpful, but some of us need more help.
Your solution begs another question that occurred to me yesterday and one for which I have so far failed to construct a workable search phrase–are messages in preset blocks processed sequentially? For example, in the preset you shared, if you perform the action for msg 4, does the controller first read msg 2? If so, then the placement of the “Disengage Toggle” command is important.
The confusing part of that scenario is if msg 2 disengages the toggle and, at some point you execute msg 3 and then try to go back to msg 1, if read sequentially you couldn’t because, if you haven’t left the bank, the toggle would be off–or, if messages are read sequentially, is msg 1 always in toggle?
Final question in truly trying to understand your set up, given the above ruminations, in as much as one can apply it to this contraption, “Logic” suggests that your message 2 should really be message 3 so as not to interfere with the toggle commands of your cc 102 and 104?? So is there a midi rationale for placing the “disengage toggle” message between your two toggle messages?
“I set my toggles per preset rather than using the bank level “Clear Preset Toggles” set to ‘on’, because sometimes I don’t want a preset to disengage another preset when pressed, and sometimes I do want that.” Maybe I just need to get my brain wrapped around this sentence…
Thank you for responding to my inquiry. I can simply ape what you’ve done and I’m confident it will work. I’m just trying to understand the logic/flow of your messages for future use and deeper understanding of the process.
No problem! Glad it’s working. For me, I’ve got in the habit of storing messages in the same sequence within a preset.
I always put my position 1 “turn stuff on” messages first.
Then the disengage toggle message (I recommend getting into the habit of doing this rather than just using the controller’s global setting for disengaging a toggle when another switch is pressed… you WILL end up wanting both “exclusive” and “additive” presets at some point!)
Then my position 2 “turn stuff off” messages .
Then my ‘both positions’ stuff.
Also - I only program this sort of “multi action” switch on F and L in my MC6 (ie top right switch). If it’s another preset like a, b etc I just use Press actions for the position 1 and 2 stuff and obvs don’t have the “both” bank jump messages for presets a, b etc
Yes, thanks, again for the help. I only wish there was a way to “tip” / “buy coffee” for those of you who are so willing to share your knowledge and expertise. I have benefited by reading the posts of all above respondents to this topic. You are all frequent contributors to this forum and I—and I am confident, others–value your selfless sharing of expertise.