James, Could you please look into using the MC6 Pro to control ToneX One pedal? Apparently there is a Google Play only app called Midi Chief that can let an Android Phone user with the app connected via USB /OTG to select from 20 embedded ToneX One pedal presets with MIDI. Could MC6 Pro do this via USB host?
I know the ToneX One world would go crazy for the ability to select embedded presets with MIDI. It’s the ONLY thing lacking.
Please, please, please say it can be done!!!
It seems that ToneXOne can be controlled via MIDI, but the theory is the app guys most probably sniffed the communication between app and pedal and send custom commands over USB, converting them from incoming MIDI commands, but not with MIDI over USB protocol.
In other words, it’s a custom implementation made specially for ToneXOne that you will NOT find in other MIDI controllers (unless they do the same).
Afaik, no MIDI over USB is enabled on the pedal yet and it’s not even seen as MIDI device.
So maybe the question is…. Can Morningstar do the same?
I would love this as an option as well if there’s someway to do it
I’m trying to send PC to tonex one via USB host on MC6 PRO but I didn’t get any success! I saw that other midi controllers are already controlling tonex one!
I am developer of app Midi Chief. You are correct. I sniffed USB messages and implement it on my app to control ToneX one. I do the same with other equivalent devices, like mooer preamp x2.
I think that is no sense to a big company do the same in midi only products. The Brazilian controller Saturno do this, because in Brazil there are a lot of taxes, and Tonex one is more attractive than the full version.
Is there any way to upvote this request?
EDIT: I saw that Pirate MIDI are launching a hardware converter for this type of application, but I would like to assume it’s because their flagship hardware controllers don’t have MIDI-USB host outputs. It also looks way overpriced IMO
We can’t do this because we don’t want to hack something to make it work when it isn’t officially supported by ToneX. This will lead to maintenance problems down the road if anything changes on their end.
The best way is to get ToneX to support MIDI over USB
Pirate Midi is launching the function with their Click v2 box which has Tonex One translation. I e pre ordered this box to go between my MC6 Pro and Tonex One. Is this not something you COULD add? If it’s about $, I’d pay and I’m sure others would.
I agree with “not developing something that isn’t officially supported”. But, how about the flexibility of mapping the CC/PC to USB calls? We already have the ability to Map to other PC/CC or Notes. Having the ability would allow us to have the accountability for it working or not.
Bringing this back to your attention, @james
As stated, the Click V2 (I preordered) will have the capability to translate MIDI to USB. I run multiple boards with Tonex One, and would rather not use pedalboard space for “translators” if my MC3 or MC6 Pro can handle the task…
Have you reconsidered?
Even though I would really like to be able to control my Tonex One with the MC6 Pro, I don’t think it’s a fair feature request here. IK Multimedia decided to not implement MIDI. Or hide it? Not sure about the technical subtleties. But anyway, it’s a feature request that really should be forwarded to them.
We’ve got our hands on ToneX One but have not prioritized anything yet. But as mentioned earlier, from what I have seen in the code, this implementation is not simply sending USB serial or MIDI but requires an additional custom USB interface implemented to the USB Host port which is not feasible given that this is a hack.
Ok. Pirate Midi have put it into their new Click V2 tiny box. Their USB host will translate from MIDI PC to TonexOne USB custom. You’re right, it is a hack but it’ll work so I’m good thx.
" … how about the flexibility of mapping the CC/PC to USB calls? We already have the ability to Map to other PC/CC or Notes. Having the ability would allow us to have the accountability for it working or no … "
Saw ^this^ up in this thread.
=> is it possible to add this to the MC6 Pro without having to introduce any unique / special / unsupportable “hacks” that may or may not be changed or altered by IK in the future (?)
Thanks,
Ben
I just imagined Morningstar’s midi controller sales would definitely skyrocket if Tonex One users know they can change tonex one preset via midi. Users can use midi controller to switch different drives, effects, amp captures.
Is this idea dead-in-the-water from Morningstar’s perspective ?
Not in any way criticizing Morningstar - would just like to know if it might be coming (?) or if its never going to come (?)
I’m a little hesitant to post this in a Morningstar forum because the company to which I will refer is technically a competitor, but it does offer a solution to MIDI control of Tonex One pedal… and we’re all Morningstar fans anyway, right?
Pirate MIDI makes a $60 ($70 if you want a little display) MIDI to USB C controller specifically designed to bring MIDI control to the Tonex One. I have their Polar Mini, and it works as advertised. See their website for details.
Some notes of caution, the controller itself isn’t cheap-feeling exactly, but it does have a prototype feel to it. It’s not the most refined hardware, and the screen isn’t real sharp and had three dead pixels. Also, it’s firmware isn’t developed by the company. It’s a freeware project on GitHub with basically one guy behind it. They also make a point of informing you they are in no way connected with IK Multimedia, the controller could stop working with future Tonex firmware updates. They caution not to update any Tonex firmware until the controller’s firmware has been updated on GitHub to support it.
So, in short, they have a way to completely control your Tonex One via MIDI, but the whole thing has kind of a “enthusiast, startup” feel to it. But for $70, I’m glad I took the chance.
HTH
Thanks!
We’re not working on this right now because we don’t want to hack together a workaround for something IK doesn’t officially support. If they change anything on the ToneX One in the future, it could break things and turn into an ongoing maintenance headache.