Hello,
I own the ML10X and MC6 pro for 2 days to control this board :
What do you recommend?
Program the ML10X and use the MC6 Pro to control the midi PC and CC and the Trio + looper? Or use the ML10X as a simple looper and program everything from the MC6 Pro?
Here is my signal flow :
Guitar in :
Xotic Wah 9VDC 5 mA
Twosome fuzz 9vDC 50 mA
Vintage Vibe 9vDC 150mA
Polytune 3
Whammy DT 9VDC 265mA (control via midi)
ML10X in
Loop 1 : MXR poly blue 9vDC 265mA
Loop 2 : DUSK 9VDC 150 mA ((control via midi) + Ottawa 100mA
Loop 3 : Keeley comp 9VDC 10mA
Loop 4 : Walrus Ages 9VDC 100mA
Loop 5 : Walrus Eons 100mA + Drunk Distortion 9V 30mA
Loop 6 : Many Worlds + Polychrome 100mA
Loop 7 : Krozz Airborn 9Vdc 15mA + VS Alchemy 9Vdc 100mA
Loop 8 : wampler plexidrive deluxe 9V 22mA + Tsakalis 9Vdc 30mA
Loop 9 : Heavy menace 9v 250mA
Loop 10 : Anasounds Sandman 9vDC 130mA
ML10X out
EQ2 (control via midi)
Walrus M1 (control via midi)
Strymon timeline (control via midi)
Strymon bluesky (control via midi) —Out L — Engl Amp (control via midi) / Out R — Trio + looper (control via omni ports)—Mesa express 5/25 (channel control via omni ports)
Thanks !
Just some general thoughts.
The first question you should ask yourself is ‘what do I need to perform well?’.
When I started my midi board I spent hours upon hours programming stuff I never really use.
Do you want to reorder the pedals connected to the ml10x? If not I’d use the simple mode and toggle loops via CC. Do you need the option to scroll through presets on your midi devices? If not I’d focus on building usable sounds/combinations of pedals.
Keep it as simple as possible or you might end up spending more time programming stuff than actually playing your instrument.
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Thanks !
Indeed I chose the ML10x to reorder the pedals (but rarely, only when I need to use the anasounds and the modulations before the OD and dist)
And yes, I’ve got 3 projects and a set list of 100 songs with different presets on my midi devices.
I own a voodoo lab Px-8 for a long time so I know what I need in term of combinations of pedal, I change because it’s difficult to sing and on/off my pedals live, I’d like to make my life easier especially with the midi-controllable pedals, even if I’m aware that it’s going to complicate my life with programming 
If performing live is the main purpose, I’d start to build a library of your core tones.
After that you can pull from that library to tailor them to different songs. I personally lean towards a one bank per song approach. That way it’s easier to organize setlists etc.
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And in practice, what source software do you think I should use to create these banks? The ML10x editor and the one on the MC6 Pro would only be used to scroll through the banks and refine the parameters of each song with the CCs? (For example, adding a boost to a solo). Or building everything with the MC6 Pro editor ? (I say that but don’t know if it’s possible…
I’d just program some presets on the mc and store those using the backup feature. Since you plan to reorder pedals on the ml10x you can’t use it in simple mode. You’ll have to store every combination of pedals you are planning to use as a preset on the device. This can only be done in the dedicated editor.
Unless you really have to, I wouldn’t try to manage single pedals. This can get complicated quickly. I’d think more in terms of presets as specific tones.
Instead of creating a preset and then programming another switch to toggle a boost, just make another preset that includes that boost. Otherwise you might end up tap dancing again, which to avoid was the goal in the first place. And stuff like that is much more time consuming to program.
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Thank you very much for your help !
If I understand well, the MC6 Pro will be used to call the presets only? (and perhaps for a tap tempo to synchronise my midi devices?)
Yes, in my experience that’s the best way to perform live.
But that’s just me. You got to figure out what suits you 
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Guitarwolf really knows his stuff and is very helpful. Cheers! Yet, I would offer the opposite advice to consider…
Personally, I want as much flexability in a live situation as possible. I have 4 midi pedals. My best strategy was two pronged, first as Guitarwolf suggested, I created dedicated pages of presets. Some pages were for one pedal. Some pages combined all my pedals. [Also this is where you want to program your looper, IMO].
My second approach was to create a scrolling interface that would let me scroll through three pedals individually (one for delay, one for reverb, one for a multifx) from one page. I found that this offered me an extreme amount of flexability in live settings.
Lastly, I will also highly recommend expression pedals via midi. This also offers a massive amount of flexability and control. Although, I find programming this to be slightly more difficult, and I would program that last.
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Interesting !
How do you create the scrolling interface ? With the MC6 pro editor ?
I’m trying to watch all the videos on youtube, read the topics on the forum but I’m still at the stage where I don’t know that I don’t know 
Go to the Morningstar Engineering youtube channel. I think you can search ‘scroll’.
Create a new bank in your MC6… name it.
Then you could have a footswitch for say strymon timeline ‘increase patch’, and another fs for strymon timeline ‘decrease patch’
Video will show you how to increment one at a time AND how to hold down fs to repeatedly number through presets. You can also print out the readout of the counter in the fs name with a % sign.
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