How to to use toggle mode to alternate between two different types of functions on the same switch?

Is there a way to use toggle mode to alternate between two different types of functions, each controlled by different CC messages?

Here I am trying to have the same switch turn on and off the Microcosm looper, (using release and a second release), but then I would also like to have long press engage the looper burst function (this works) and, with a second long press to disengage looper burst. This second thing doesn’t seem to work as I want it.

Here is my preset below.

I tried all possible permutations, but it just doesn’t work.

The logical order for me would be (chronologically)

  1. I press once (looper turns on)

  2. I long press once (burst mode ON)

  3. I long press a second time (burst mode OFF)

  4. I press a final time (looper turns off).

Is there a way to achieve this?

I also have to deal with the toggle status changing when I long press, so I added those extra 2 toggle preset actions at the bottom

Hi,

to avoid to toggle the preset with a long press, use toggle preset instead of toggle mode.

Add a message with ‘release/toggle preset/both’ as the very last message of your preset. Remove the toggles on long press.

If you want to toggle the burst independently you could set up a remote preset that toggles the burst on/off and trigger that via long press/engage preset/both.

If you need visual feedback add ‘rename preset’ messages.

thanks I think the first part I understood - I changed from toggle mode to using toggle preset

but I still cannot achieve the below

what I get is instead

so, for some reason, the 2nd action using long press (=turn burst off) only works when the looper is off. that action is currently position 1 (I am not using toggle mode though).

even if I invert pos 1/2 for the long press actions, it still doesn’t behave like I want to…

thanks!!!

I think the only way (I found) is to have the first action (loop on/off) using release (on) and release (off);

the second action (can be triggered independently) using long press (burst on) and then double tap (burst off).

and then a release for toggle preset, as per your suggestion.

obviously there is no way to view the 4 different status screens so you just have to go for on/off of the main action;

I still do not understand why release + release works, but long press + long press doesn’t for the 2nd command in this case, and you have to use long press+double tap

It does not work because there is no toggle for the long press. A long press action wil trigger both messages and only the last one send will take effect. That’s why I’ve suggested to use a remote (different) preset, which could be controlled by a long press by using the engage preset message type. You could make use of the toggles in that remote preset. That way you’d have two independent toggles which could be controlled by one preset.

thanks so much. I think for now I am find with my long press/double tap for the 2nd function.

seems to be easy enough to remember

I am still somewhat struggling with secondary functions, and when to use toggle preset vs toggle mode