Hi, I'm a guitar player (mc6pro + ml10x)

I recently purchased an MC6Pro and an ML10x and the ML10x is blowing my mind. It’s fantastic and the shipping time was crazy fast, so thanks for that.

Perhaps I’m just old, but I would presume that a lot of guitar players don’t have a ton of experience with MIDI, myself included. I was able to find this post:

that talks about connecting these devices together, but I haven’t been able to find documentation about physically connecting these two devices anywhere. While it may be obvious to anyone with even a tiny bit of MIDI knowledge, I still haven’t been able to make it work.

I’m able to use the web-based editor to talk to both devices when connected to them individually via USB, but I can’t make the 6 do anything to the 10. I have the OUT from the 6 going to the IN of the 10 over MIDI 5-pin. In desperation, I added another MIDI cable from the THRU of the 10 back to the IN of the 10, but that didn’t help.

In the videos, the 6 seems to know about the loop names that are defined on the 10, so I assume that will magically happen when the devices start talking to each other correctly. If that assumption is incorrect, please clarify what I need to do to set the loop names in the 6.

In general, I think your documentation should have a “for best results, connect them this way” since there seems to be several options for how to connect the two devices.

I’ve also tried blindly using the 6 to try to activate a 10 preset by bank/preset #s but no dice there either. Any help with troubleshooting would be appreciated.

Hi! I don’t own an ML but have a read of the “Morningstar ML10X” section of Message Type List

Seems James and co have made a vid on this as well… https://youtu.be/f-w_jLoz6Mw?si=RD04UHwh8SD2iiAQ

Ah, sorry. Reread your post slowly and see you’ve read and watched. So: some basic trouble shooting.

Definitely got the midi cable orientated correctly? It’s possible to get it wrong because pro has a 7 pin midi port.

Tried a different midi cable?

This is a common gotcha: Certain Functions Are Not Working

And please post screen grabs of your controller including midi channels… maybe they’re wrong?!

And this thread seems relevant: MC6 Pro Messages to Control ML10X - #13 by Soniqfreq

If you can, I’d suggest a nuclear option factory reset and firmware update to the latest betas on both boxes

Hello @moley6knipe ! Thanks for the replies.

I was able to get some of it working tonight. I think a big part of my problem was that I thought there would be a woosh where suddenly the MC6Pro in some way indicated that it could see the 10. Those ways might include a message on either editor, or really this:

Unfortunately, that video starts with everything physically connected and using an MC8, which I haven’t looked up the inputs of to know what’s what, but yeah, I kinda got it working tonight. I can switch presets anyway.

In case you’re reading this trying to figure out the physical connections: mine worked by going from MIDI out on the 6 to MIDI in on the 10. I had to re-seat the 6-side a couple of times before it kicked in.

I still can’t see my loop names and would love to know how to see them.

Progress! I don’t know how to get the loop names to show… I would guess having midi out of the ml into the mc6 would be required.

Any other users out there who can chime in?

And I found this in the roadmap… which kinda implies something about the current connection is NOT syncing? Trello

@james?

The syncing is only for the Loop names. So if you use the ML10X message type in the same browser and URL (i.e. both editors are on editor.morningstar.io, not differing URLs like editor-mkii.morningstar.io or editor-beta.morningstar.io), then you can see the Loop names in the MC editor.

The Preset syncing is not available yet, but I think we should be able to add that this week.

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Hello @james, Thanks for the reply. I’m using editor-mkii.morningstar.io on both tabs and I don’t see the loop names. Does the order of browser-to-device connection matter?

I was using FF but have switched to Chromium because the advanced presets weren’t working in FF for me. I’d strongly prefer not to install a Google/Microsoft browser, but will if it’s my only option. Any tips you could give me to help me get this working would be really appreciated.

Ah! If browser not Chrome then that might explain these unexpected results. Brave is a Chromium based browser that’s the privacy opposite of Google. I think the Editor works fine with Brave!

In fact here we go, from a previous thread…

Thanks for the pointers. Sadly Brave is kinda worse what with Brenden Eich and crypto nonsense. I’ll give Google Chrome a shot.