Gain control on Loop Output or Input

Morningstar Gear ML10X
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This is aimed at @james and @jason.nguyen and anyone else that is part of the firmware dev team for the ML10X.

Firmware 1.2beta introduced the ability to cut/restore the audio output from a loop. Does this open the opportunity to introduce a gain control at the output or the input of a loop?

It would be a great feature, does the internal architecture of ML10x lend itself to gain control?

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Unfortunately no, as that would require new hardware for gain control.

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I know this doesn’t directly solve your problem, but given the way the ML10X currently works, this is what I’ve been doing personally:

  • Many MIDI-controlled pedals have volume/gain control via CC, so in those loops, there’s no need for external gain, and depending on where you put them in a signal chain, it may be as much control as you need.
  • That said, it’s kinda nice to just put a MIDI-enabled volume-control device in a couple loops. Source Audio’s EQ2 (eq) and Atlas (compressor) are some of my favorites, because they both can provide two separate control pathways. If you pair them specifically with another pedal in a loop, they don’t even take up a loop, e.g. a loop with a drive and the EQ2 in it together, as if it was one pedal.
  • If you’re running an ML10X mono, you can do a 4CM-type configuration to get an extra loop (input → ML10X in/out 1 → (extra loop) → ML10X in/out 2 → wherever) . Most people use this for pre- and post- amp setups, but there’s no reason you can’t do that with a volume control (or pair them both together).
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Thank you both for your replies.
@jason.nguyen I had been looked at the Source Audio EQ2. I’ll have to keep an eye out for it on the 2nd hand market as it is over 300 pounds new in the UK.
As I have a couple of older pedals that are the issue I may just buy a couple of cheap Behringer EQ pedals and put them in front of or behind the pedals that need a gain tweak.
I like the idea of midi control but I can get 10 Behringer EQ pedals for the price of one Source Audio EQ2!

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Haha, I totally get it about the non-MIDI pedals being so much cheaper. In this case, I think it’s worth just testing things out that way to see if that control scheme even works for you.