Fractal effects integration

Hello there , I have recently bought the MC6 pro and am enjoying the process to make my Fractal FM3 and other midi pedals integrate with it .

I am also curious to know how seasoned MC6 users are using it for their benefit .

So far I have done this :slight_smile:

  1. integrate preset and scenes
  2. Was able to set the tuner
  3. Was able to set the tap tempo and BPM tempo+/- buttons for more control
  4. I have set up a home bank to be my central space

I have not seen an option to integrate the Fractal effects natively .

As a workaround I have programmed cc messages to bypass or activate the effects via my mc6 pro controller. This does have a drawback as the controller cannot really know the real status of the effect (if you know how to fix this , pls help out )

I am curious to know if there is any plan to integrate fractal effects natively , It will be a great option to have.

per-effect control is always difficult because the information isn’t being passed back and forth. That said, as long as you’re ONLY controlling on the MC6, then they’ll stay in sync as long as you start them in the same place. For example, let’s say you have page 3 to go straight to some preset on the Fractal using a Bank Preset (Edit Bank → On Enter Bank → PC, etc…). And let’s say you have switches A, B, and C to control three effects on that preset. You can always add a second Bank message that goes “On Enter Bank” → “Set Toggle” that manually sets those effects to the state they’re in when the preset loads.

If you engage/bypass one of those presets on the Fractal directly, then you’ll go out of sync, but if you reload that bank or another one set similarly, they’ll be back in sync again.

thanks @jason.nguyen for replying back. I was thinking as we have bi-directional Midi flow we will receive the signal from Fm3 to MC6 and vice versa which will be similar to how it works for Scenes or Preset setting.

Right now in stompbox mode : When I am in a FM3 scene I will have a set of effects available.
If the status of them is visible when i switch scenes on MC6 nothing like it!

But say for ex the reverb is off for that scene , then in MC6 i wont know if it is off or on.
For now i have CC message with on/off toggle for 6 effects in my MC6 - so if I need to use i press it 3 times to get that in sync when the toggle stompbox mode and then it stays in sync until i switch scenes.

If effects can also be integrated like scenes+presets with Morningstar flow then it will solve a lot of Fractal users problem as we always cry about Fractal not being the best in UI when compared to other modellers. :slight_smile:

So, technically speaking, this sort of control is possible via SysEx, but the MIDI implementations of the Morningstar controllers and Fractal devices are not compatible, so any communication between the two has to be translated. That means writing custom code specifically for Fractal into the controller firmware. The engineering team has done it for the basic functions, but I don’t know how feasible it would be for every effects block. And even if it was something they’d consider doing, I’m not sure you’d see that feature any time soon.

I’m with you, it seems like something solvable. And technically it is! I just spent 10 minutes checking Fractal’s documentation to affirm it. But the resources necessary to solve it are considerable.