Hello, I am hoping someone out there can help me figure this out.
For months now I have been having an issue with using the Morningstar with the Neurohub from Source Audio, in that by having Expression CC Messages to Pedals outside the Neurohub, for example: Expression CC Number 100, min 0 max 127, Channel 9 (for an H9 Pedal) - this simply seems to overload the Neurohub to a degree that it locks up when I keep rocking the Expression pedal, AND also creates the Neurohub Expression input to not respond correctly anymore (freezes randomly).
I am wondering if I am programing expression control inefficiently or wrongly? Source audio asked me if the Morning Star is sending extra messages, which I think not. CC number 100 controls pedal expression on the H9, which can be any set of parameters there depending on what I assign expression to on the H9 Control App - but the same principle applies to the Mobius from Strymon or the Meris pedal, in that by setting it on the Pedal itself if a preset has Expression ON or OFF, one can control a series of parameters or none by “programming it on the pedal itself”. Is this too much midi information? Note this happens even if I assign Expression to a single parameter on either Meris, Strymon or H9. It makes me wonder why is the Neurohub the only midi receiving apparatus that locks up while all other pedals continue to work without any hiccups.
As a reference, my presets are usually all like this:
I have “PC”, “CC” and “Expression CC” Messages in all presets:
PC Midi Messages (and midi chain order): Hub (Channel 2) > Disaster Area Midi Box (for 3 Pedals: Chase Bliss x2 and Meris x1) > Mobius > H9
Expression CC: CC Expression to 3 Pedals: Meris from 0 to 127 (on at all times, controlled on the pedal with hell down and toe down by changing the knobs on these positions), H9 from 0 to 127 on at all times (controlled from the preset on the pedal itself via the Control app) and Mobius from 0 1o 127 (on at all times - control per preset on the pedal itself by havin “EP” set to ON or OFF)
CC Messages: one or two depending on the Preset, to specific Pedals (including ones on the Hub)
*every single Pedal has a separate Midi Channel , that is not Channel 2 which is the Channel for the Neurohub
*I use a Mission Engineering Double Expression Pedal EP25k: one to Hub Expression Input and one to Morningstar Expression Input1 - I tried using separate expression pedals for the Neurohub and the Morningstar and the same thing happens - it all seems to come from the fact that there are Expression CC messages being sent from the Morningstar via Midi that “overwhelm” the Neurohub, even though it is in its own separate midi channel!
This problem is really bugging me for so long, killed many days i should probably have spent more playing/practicing. I absolutely like the Morningstar: it has so many good features and on paper it is everything I could ask for in a midi controller, but this problem renders using it with expression with pedals completely problematic: it is like I either use expression with the Neurohub or with the Morningstar, but there is in theory no reason why this should be so.
(PS: I am also trying to troubleshoot this with Source Audio, but I figure maybe someone here got this same problem with a similar set up or do not, which could imply something is wrong with my Morningstar unit - if that was the case at least I would know more than I do now about how to solve it!)
many thanks to anyone pitching in - especially if you have the same type set up: Morningstar MC6 mkII with H9/Mobius and Neurohub, using expression on Source Audio Pedals through the Hub and for the H9/Mobius via the Morningstar.