Chase Bliss Blooper Mods on/off requires 2 presses

Morningstar Gear MC6 Pro MIDI Controller
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How can I turn Mods on/off on a Chase Bliss Blooper and also show the Mod on/off status on the Morningstar MC6 Pro?

If I configure it with Toggle Mode on it takes 2 on the Morningstar to change the on/off status. The screen does change with each press, but it’s out of sync with what the pedal is doing.

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On the other hand, if Toggle Mode is off, it only takes one press on the Morningstar. But the screen doesn’t provide any feedback on the on/odd status. (I’ll post below as new users apparently can’t post more than one pic per post)

Any suggestions?

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Here are the non-toggle mode settings

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If its out of sync with what the CB pedal is doing then you just need to swap the message positions around. So in the first screenshot you shared, Msg 1 should be set to Position 2, and Msg 2 should be set to Position 1.

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It’s not off by one. It’s out of sync because it takes 2 presses:

press:           1   2   3   4   5   6
Morningstar: OFF ON  OFF ON  OFF ON OFF
CB Blooper : OFF ON  OFF OFF ON  ON OFF

I’ve tried it with a CC value of 1 and 127 with the same result.

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Sounds like the pedal only toggles with 127. So 0 won’t do anything. I’d 127 in both positions.

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Thanks. Weirdly, this seems to actually work. But it’s not just 127. It also works when both positions have a value of 1. It’s weird because that doesn’t seem to correspond with the MIDI specs for CC30:

MOD A CC#30 Range: 0=Off, Any Value >0=ON

At least I have it working now. Thanks!

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Just ran into this issue – and came here via Google… Looks like (contrary to the MIDI manual), any value > 0 = “change state.” A CB bug, I guess (or at least an inconsistency with their manual). I’m glad you found the answer!