Analog Endeavors Aux 3 with MC6 Mk II

Morningstar Gear Aux Switches
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I’ve looked through this forum and don’t see anything about my problem. I have an Analog Endeavors Aux3 “E” which is an earlier version that is supposed to be compatible with a model “AE” which is the one recommended by Morningstar.

  1. It appears to only work on Exp 2 and not Exp 1. Yes, both Exps are configured as AuxSw. This I can live with but want to know why they are not equivalent since the option exists for either Exp to act as an Omniport for AuxSw in the Editor.
  2. The buttons I would think should be left to right for either the 1st or 2nd row of page 2, but they are (L-R) K, L, J. This isn’t even sequential. Is there a way to reassign the Aux 3 switches to different page 2 switches so they align all one row, left to right the same as on the MC6? This I would not like to live with.

Is there anyone else that has experienced this?

James, any ideas? I have a 2nd MC6 and noticed that the Aux3 switch didn’t work in EXP 1, either.

I have tried this on 2 MC6’s and it’s consistent (not working on Exp 1).

Thank you - MC6 is an excellent solution for many things!

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when the omniports are configured as aux switch, the presets they recall depends on the omniports they are connected to i.e. omniport 1 set to aux will engage preset G,H,I and omniport 2 J,K,L.

If you want to recall specific presets, you can use the “fixed switch custom” setting and select the presets/functions you want to execute. I’m assuming you’re on the latest v3.11 firmware.

Can you confirm if you were trying to execute J,K,L on omniport 1?

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Yes, I confirmed that my used Analog Endeavors switch (but model E, not AE - and not convinced it is in working order) was connected to each omniport on two MC6 Mk IIs and they were both configured as “AuxSw”. When pressing each of the 3 switches while plugged into omniport/Exp 1, only J and G respond (two different pages and these are both on the rightmost on the Aux3 switch instead of left most switch like shown in your YouTube). They only respond to a double tap which changes back and forth between pg 1 and 2 but that is all. It doesn’t send the CC message it should from J (but does when I hit J on the MC6 itself). In exp2, the J switch on the right will not respond to double tap but single press responds, but in the order left-right K, L, J.

I don’t know for sure whether 2 used MC6s are weird (doubt it unless the omniports are messed up) or just the used Aux switch since I don’t have a known good one to run similar test. Thank you.

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Hi James,

Please - I’m just trying to troubleshoot whether my used, recently purchased Analog Endeavors switch is miswired OR I’m missing something in the Morningstar video/owners guide.

Reference your Youtube video for Auxiliary Switches on Youtube, Add more Switches to your Morningstar MIDI Controller - YouTube

In the Omniport settings narrative (1:34), I heard: “when you select ‘aux’, your external switches will behave EXACTLY like your onboard switches”.

Am I correct in interpreting this as the left-to-right switch relationships are maintained? That is what the video shows.

HOWEVER, when I’m configuring the omniports using the AuxSw option, I get:
Exp 1 - left to right on MC6 front row is GHI. On my aux switch, it’s HIG
Exp 2 - left to right on MC6 back row is JKL. On my aux switch, it’s KLJ.

So the same positional relationships for page 2 switches when fired from the Aux Switch: instead of being left-middle-right, they are right-left-middle.

I have figured out how to make them in the correct order using "fixed switch custom → Tip, Ring, Tip+Ring settings to re-orient switches on the auxiliary switch into the same left to right relationships as on the MC6. But if the Analog Endeavors and American Loopers are fully compatible, shouldn’t these already work left to right by configuring the omniports to the “AuxSw” setting? Otherwise why have an AuxSw setting and instead make all aux switches be mapped using “fixed switch custom” mapping?

Thank you in advance for your response,
Brent

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As mentioned earlier, Aux switch in Omniport1 does not engage preset J at all. It engages G, H and I.

It just depends on how the aux switch was wired. There’s no correct way of placing the switches from left to right.
Simply,
in Omniport 1, Tip to ground engages G, Ring to ground engages H, Tip+Ring to ground engages I
in Omniport 2, Tip to ground engages J, Ring to ground engages K, Tip+Ring to ground engages L

What firmware version are you running?
In the v3.11 firmware, you can just use the Fixed Switch Custom setting and then specifically select what Preset to engage for each setting:

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Hi James,

I realize I can change switches with the Fixed Switch Custom feature. However, to use the stock Aux Switch setting,
if this sentence is correct from your thread below:
in Omniport 1, Tip to ground engages G, Ring to ground engages H, Tip+Ring to ground engages I (this is left → right order on the MC6)

And Andrew at Analog Endeavors says his AE wiring is:
left switch = ring to ground
center switch = tip+ring to ground
right switch = tip to ground

That makes the MC6 and AE Aux 3 NOT POSITIONALLY COMPATIBLE, right? The auxiliary switch sequence L–>R is K,L,J on the MC6, not J,K,L. That is what I’m observing.

Correct? Incorrect?

Also, I have an email in to American Loopers to ask if their switch matches your Omniport TRS combinations.
I’ve also checked GFI Systems triple switch and it has yet another positional combination. So what brand is compatible with the stock “AuxSw” Omniport setting?

Thank you

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Brent:

They only respond to a double tap which changes back and forth between pg 1 and 2 but that is all. It doesn’t send the CC message it should from J (but does when I hit J on the MC6 itself). In exp2, the J switch on the right will not respond to double tap but single press responds, but in the order left-right K, L, J.

As mentioned earlier, Aux switch in Omniport1 does not engage preset J at all. It engages G, H and I.

Brent:

In the Omniport settings narrative (1:34), I heard: “when you select ‘aux’, your external switches will behave EXACTLY like your onboard switches”.

Am I correct in interpreting this as the left-to-right switch relationships are maintained? That is what the video shows.

It just depends on how the aux switch was wired. There’s no correct way of placing the switches from left to right.
Simply,
in Omniport 1, Tip to ground engages G, Ring to ground engages H, Tip+Ring to ground engages I
in Omniport 2, Tip to ground engages J, Ring to ground engages K, Tip+Ring to ground engages L

What firmware version are you running?
In the v3.11 firmware, you can just use the Fixed Switch Custom setting and then specifically select what Preset to engage for each setting:

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There is really no correct way of wiring. There is no official sequence, no official combinations or anything on where the T, R or T+R switches should be. Which is why we now have the Fixed Switch Custom setting so you can just dictate what switch on your aux switch will recall what presets.

If the switch position relative to what preset it recalls bothers you, you should just use the Fixed Switch Custom setting.

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Used Fixed Switch Global setting and configured with the help of Andrew at Analog Endeavors and all is well. The Global Aux Sw setting on the MC6 is apparently the default for a different switch mfr. Thanks!