Ableton Session View - Need more banks OR 3 global switches for every song

Hello Everyone!

I’m looking for ideas, work arounds etc…

Short story… I use my MC6MK2 to control Ableton SESSION view for live performance.

The issue i’m having is having a dedicated switch that will control OUTRO of every song, so different CC# each press.

I need 50+ songs at the ready.

To do that i figure 2 songs per bank - one song per page is a good way to go… Both pages identical in setup just the song name changes and CC#s change for that song.

I was hoping to have a dedicated switch on my board like a BOSS FS5U to do the OUTRO… But the exp input wont work with the dual page setup… It will work on page 2, but not Page 1…

I have resided back to using switches C and I on the MC6 to do the job… But really was hoping to have a big single pedal away from the MC6 to avoid mis fires ( big feet ) when playing guitar and singing in the heat of battle.

Is a new setup so it keeps changing / evolving. Very interested to read and see how others are doing the Ableton Session View thing. Keen to hear any ideas!

Appreciate you time

Cheers
Trent

After trial and error i’ve landed on 2 songs per bank… each bank / page identical, just the song changes every page.

Aux switch to scroll banks and toggle page. ( disabled A+B and B+C to scroll banks as i do occasionally accidentally hit B+C when going for C in a hurry…

Nice having a single button (C / I ) that is always Vs > Ch > Vs > Ch etc then a double tap for Outro.

I guess in a perfect world i just need the MC6 to Twice as wide. Or having tiny feet. :crazy_face::man_shrugging:t2:

Still keen to chat with anyone else doing this - see what else is out there / can be done.

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Are you setting up a page for each song or just one page that controls many songs (e.g., intro VCVCVCC outro)? …And other different pages for other song structures?

Hi Angus,

What i have landed on is one page per song.

It started with every page having;

A&G) >Vs
B&H) Song Name & Key + launch intro scene
C&I) >Ch
D&J) Stop / Play
E&K) Stop / Bank jump to set
F&L) Bridge / Outro

I have been experimenting with using switch C&I to do everything via program scroll - launch intro ( in a shift state ), Vs, Ch, Vs2, Ch2, Bridge, Ch3, Outro for example. When do it this way i basically have a loop at the end of each scene so I can jam / chat to audience if want / need to. Not being locked to a specific song length is needed.

My main issue is really the size of the MC6… I’ve come from using a beat buddy for 100s of gigs and really like that workflow, one button to rule them all.

If there was a way to have one external switch / like a BOSSFS5U to control C&I of every bank ide be loving that.

And for my workflow, 60banks of 6 presets would work nice. For scrolling songs / bank and not having to look at long name / toggle pages.

But - no doubt this will evolve and change.

It’s sounding amazing - just not totally sold on the floor setup yet… Feels like there’s a better way to do it.